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October 22, 2009
Posted: 11:27 PM ET

This clip is tragedy plus outrage plus allegations of corporate greed and indifference.

American oil giant Chevron (relatively new parent company of Texaco) is being blamed for a major ecological emergency in another country. A rainforest in an area the size of Rhode Island in northern Ecuador is struggling after decades of oil drilling by, among other oil interests, Texaco. Swaths of land are useless. More than a thousand people have died from cancers blamed on the crude oil introduced to the drinking water and ecosystem.

This is bad. Chevron is being sued for $27 billion.

Rick Sanchez interviews two women here. It's the quest for justice and accountability on one side, and a sympathetic, but defiant corporation on the other.

We want to know: how does this issue grab you? After you hear both sides of this argument, does a big bad oil giant still look so big and bad? Leave a comment below.

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Kari   October 23rd, 2009 3:40 am ET

I wish Rich Sanchez had asked Sylvia Garrigo, the Chevron / Texaco representative, why Chevron / Texaco had pushed to move the case to Ecuador to begin with, rather than let it be tried in the US where it was originally filed. Kerry Kennedy notes that some people believe that Chevron / Texaco did it because they believed they could control the Ecuadoran court system; if this is why Chevron / Texaco had the case moved, it's quite ironic that they're now *complaining* about the court system being corrupt. (By the way, in the movie Crude - a documentary about this case - Chevron claims that the water isn't polluted; and if it is polluted, it's polluted because of poor sanitation, not oil.)

Daniel   October 23rd, 2009 3:53 am ET

I have a solution for the health care for all United State American Citizens. Have it set up like a gym membership. The government can give the citizens a card that we can only use at doctor offices or pharmacies on that card will be $100 a month. I spoke with a doctor about this plan and they like it because it will be less paper work for them and they can guarantee health care for anyone who walks in there door. Why is it set up like a membership? Because this is set to invite competition for doctors to provide a certain amount that is provided. Now because it is a free market if some people want something better they can go find it some where else. The issue of the young people who don’t get sick that often like me is very inviting to me and no sweet off my back because I can’t spend the money anywhere else except at a doctors office or a pharmacy and if I do have any problems I can go to the doctor and pharmacy that I choice to have a membership with and don’t have to pay anything. My level of care will be my choice and the choice of the free market if I don’t like the care I am getting I will just walk out the door and or transfer my membership to some where else. I hope this opens up debate and a possible cheaper solution for the tax payers of this country. I calculated that for $100 a month for one citizen it will be $1200 a year and for three hundred million citizens the budget cost will be $360,000,000,000.00 bill for the federal government. Now if someone already has health care provided and they don’t want this card they can get a $1200 tax break. I hope this is simple for everyone to understand thank you.

independentnyer   October 23rd, 2009 3:59 am ET

How bout three strikes your out for oil companies who destroy the lives of people, animals, or the enviornment.? Oh I forgot they have about a million strikes in their sad history. No ethics, no soul. If people paid more attn to the suffering involved in the products they buy or long-term detrimental effects our world would be such a better place. These executives will change their behavior if consumers chose to take their business elsewhere. Not because they have a jesus moment but because they would fear loss of profit. CHEVRON- Imagine the nice press you would get if you would just clean up the toxic waste. Your like the person who won't pick up litter or do the right thing because you have convinced yourself it's not your responsibility. If you have the means (which you do) do the right thing. Remember Chevron– Genuine great ethics will lead to great profits in the next decade. People are starting to pay attn. Get on the working for the good train. You can fool yourselves but us no longer.

P O'Hearn   October 23rd, 2009 6:43 am ET

I watched your clip with Roberts Kennedy's daughter regarding the lawsuit by the indigenous people of Ecuador against Chevron. I must say my mouth was hanging open in amazement at the one-sided biased presentation. You did not mention that the Ecuadoran Oil Company was the drilling company at the time Texaco was the operator of the oil fields and that they have continued to drill since Texaco left after spending hundreds of millions of dollars cleaning up a large portion of the waste pits from the drilling. Also that the Ecuadoran government at the time accepted this cleanup. Why has no further clean up been done in the last 20 years by the Ecuardoran oil company and government since the New York lawyers decided to go after the big money?

Was any research done before you aired this story?

Cris   October 23rd, 2009 9:35 am ET

I can assure you very little research was done on this or any other story Sanchez reports on. Research would reveal things that might spoil the slant he wants to take on a particular issue. Sometime he even makes stuff up to help out his agenda. Cheveron made a mess of things but no worse that the Ecuadorian company and Ecuadorian government. Saying that would cast fellow Hispanics in a bad light. Sanchez can't have that.

cl   October 23rd, 2009 11:02 am ET

hey fluffy, suggest to the hispanic preacher he should read the story of the two women and a baby before Solomon. The woman that killed her baby and took the other baby are the illegals. We are Solomon. Lets see what wisdom comes from Obama.

craig savage   October 23rd, 2009 1:41 pm ET

I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE WAY History IS BEING TOLD OR will be written.If your dad is black and your mom is white . How does that make Mr Obama the first Black President. Unless his mother does not count.This is not about race its about History being told right .

Tom   October 23rd, 2009 3:09 pm ET

Can anyone spell DNA? Please let use our technology and help stop the madness!

Al Murray   October 23rd, 2009 3:22 pm ET

It is about time that FOX news was called on thier news format. They have never been fair to the other party. The rabid manner they went after Mr. Obama is a national disgrace. Why a foriegn borne and living individual (Murdoc) feels he can manipulate our political process and discussion from his estate outside of London England needs to be addressed as well.

Tom   October 23rd, 2009 3:22 pm ET

The Northwest Airlines reminds me of the speech "Sulley" mentioned before congress after he saved all lives on board .... much more attention needed here to be sure!

phranie   October 23rd, 2009 3:29 pm ET

Soooo, this is a great opportunity to move away from racial conversations to focusing on system reform. For years minorities have plead guilty to crimes they didn't commit and now look! A group of whites who didn't hurt anyone and were robbed of their freedom. We all need to take a step back and reframe the discourse instead of shifting the target!

Dennis   October 23rd, 2009 3:33 pm ET

I can't believe it. What is this country coming to? U.S. citizens are volunteering. They are even being asked to volunteer. This sounds almost Christian. I thought the "right" was supposed to be Christian. I forgot, they are the "party of No". Can you have it both ways?

cleveland woodson   October 23rd, 2009 4:09 pm ET

Rick
Your show is outstanding.
Keep up the good work.
I truly appreciate your independence.
I wish more commentators would fact check and/or question what is stated on air by others.
Thanks to your staff and you.

Maria Rivas-Urena   October 23rd, 2009 9:00 pm ET

I do not like that only the negative aspect of Latinos was presented in Latinos In America. Why don't you do better? Or at least forward this to Ms. O'Brien.
I was born in Mexico – therefore, Mexico is my mother and the United States is my father it took 5 years (in 1953) for my family to be granted a legal status. I can only imagine how long it would take 56 years later for a Mexican to come in legally.
My father first came to the U.S. in 1912, when the only legal process was to sign when crossing the border. Laws and rules change, BUT THEY SHOULD CHANGE FOR EVERY COUNTRY’S IMMIGRANTS. If you are immigrating from other than Latin America, it takes a whole lot less time to be granted legal status. Although half this country belonged to Mexico, Mexicans are being discriminated. The reason we hold on to our roots more strongly is because Anglo-Americans don’t let us integrate! Then you complain?
These people are – NOT ILLEGALS, they are UNDOCUMENTED WORKERS who come, just like your ancestors, without a green card, in search of a better life – and what’s more, to work in jobs others mostly will not perform, is not only fair, but OWED TO them at least that much-or should I say, that little. What have Europeans given to the U.S.? Yet, they are much more welcomed than we are. Search in your conscience and if you really have one, you’ll see the truth.
We should be protesting about our better jobs being outsourced to other countries, jobs that a lot of our U.S. residents would love to have – yet, we are permitting those jobs to be taken to China, India, etc. etc. Those people are not paying any kind of taxes or contributing to the U.S. economy by buying groceries, paying rent, bus fares, buying cars, homes, paying for gas, or contributing in Social Security. Undocumented are workers consuming and paying taxes are paying taxes. Why don’t we build a wall in the U.S. Canada border?
Regarding Latinos in America program, WHY DON’T YOU SHOW THE POSITIVE SIDE OF THE LATINO PEOPLE. HOW MANY HOLD GOVERNMENT LEGISLATION POSITIONS? HOW MANY ARE DOCTORS, ATTORNEYS, ARCHITECTS, SUCCESSFUL COMPANY OWNERS, HOW MANY HOLD IMPORTANT JOBS.
My parents had 8 children – I’m the youngest. All my family own their own homes and 7 of us have rental houses and apartment units in upper middle class neighborhoods in the Los Angeles. We are all outstanding citizens with children who are have also fully integrated and hold respectable positions. In my husband’s side there are 6 siblings and they also have their homes paid for, are well traveled and their children also hold good jobs and most are upper middle class, good Christian citizens as well, and so too our Mexican friends who live a respectable life. Why do they show the negative side of our community and not the better side equally as well?
I am a grateful not a “proud” Mexican. I am a Mexican who is very grateful to both my “mother” and my “father” countries, who’s only pride is to be who I am, not what I am – I am my Creators daughter – just like you are, but I am not a blind daughter. I am glad to have the family values, moral and religious upbringing, that I inherited from my Mexico/mother. However I am equally grateful not “proud” to have the opportunity lo live in this a better country with all its good and bad – yet much better government than Mexico’s government.
If hear someone say something negative about my Mexico/"mother", it hurts and I defend her. By the same token, when I go to Mexico and I hear someone say something negative about my U.S./"father it hurts equally and I defend it with all my strength and passion.... Can't we all just get along? If there is a person who directly does you wrong, DEFEND YOURSELF.... BUT IF NO ONE IS DIRECTLY INFLICTING YOU SUFFERING – PLEASE, JUST BE AND LET BE. LET GO AND LET GOD! That is the just way, I expect everyone's respect as I respect everyone – that is the only way to find peace. SHALOM!

elvin fields   October 25th, 2009 1:58 pm ET

its time for the goverment to end the monoploy held by bluecross,they had it sense 1945

A. Smith   October 26th, 2009 1:34 pm ET

Greetings Rick, I watched the clip. For decades the Republican Party and their masters (Big Corporations) have routinely raped the resources in third world country's while often leaving a huge toxic dump in their wake. Ironically while the Republican Party's dominated the White House, American taxpayers often subsidized those very same offenders.

Now that America has a Democratic Majority in the House, Senate and White House, the news media outlets are permitted to discuss these hyper-toxic corporations that inflict tremendous suffering on our Latin and South American neighbors. Its not like those same company's stopped raking in hundreds of Billions of dollars from their insane actions these past 20 years. The Republican governmental branches prevented any real open discussion on their insanity for profits activity's.

IF the Republican Party is letting these huge super toxic Corporations speak for them, and act with their blessings as they rape and loot the resources in these third world countrys Rick, what message about America is the Republican Party truely giving to those people in those sites where they have no hope of repairing the enormous toxic damage done there?

A. Smith
Oregon

sharon   October 27th, 2009 12:00 pm ET

Rick,
How does this story about Chevron "grab" me? Well.......since they bought Texaco....................here in the US............this Texaco ,as well as others have also done this very same thing . Over and Over to Native burrial sites. Pick a state. How about they dig up a bunch of graves and find a wooded area , dig a hole and throw them all in this one hole? No ceremony, no one contacted as law requires. Then they concrete over the rest...........so when you drive onto this area you are driving over the burrial site......getting water out of the tap run through the burrial site......getting your cup of coffee from the water in the coffee from the burrial site........nice ? WRONG !!!!!!!!! What would happen to an average person if they decided to dig up a complete burrial complex..........build whatever they wanted , however they wanted , ignored all the laws, ignored the moral values, just did their thing? They would be under the jail............but Texaco? nope. Just another day in HUGE COOPERATION WORLD. Well , at least ONE lawyer is taking action in Calf. where that cemetary was vandilised, and the other in Ill.........maybe people are tired of not be able to find their loved ones? Have you checked out your families burrial site in awhile? Did you know that you can sell a cemetary? Did you know the new owner of the land it is on........if not honest.......WILL DO WHATEVER HE/SHE WANTS..................LAWS OR NOT?

Barbara   October 29th, 2009 3:27 pm ET

A Chevron just opened near me. I was so happy to see a new store go in that spot but guess what.....................it is a Chevron. I will not be giving them my business after this story.

Suzanne M Alarcon.   November 2nd, 2009 5:22 pm ET

Until no person or their families should be able to stay in congress more that 4 years and money that goes t o our congress.
We need to clean house cmpletely every 4 years. Our government has sold by the lobbyests .Thank you for being at least a small part of getting the truth to us. Pray that more than a small handfull of our government have that old-fastioned word "integrity". please keep the information coming.PLEASE

EugeneWiese   November 4th, 2009 4:45 pm ET

What the oil cos. have done to the rain forest is a perfect example of why we should not drill baby drill. I'm an environmentalist and I believe we should save the planet,now! Gene

A. Smith   November 11th, 2009 4:35 am ET

Big Oil has had Republican lawmakers in their pockets for decades. No significant cases which approach their bottom line have moved thru the US Justice department because of the Republican puppets blocking those efforts.

A comprehensive 'Cap and Trade' is going to be the first meaningful strike against these giant corporations and their egregious and reckless actions.

Third world country's do not have the resources to repair the extensive environmental damage Big Oil corporations cause and when Big Oil has tapped and moved all the usable crude from a location there are few if any laws preventing them from picking up and running to the next country to repeat the cycle.

Moving this pending case against Tex-Chevron to Ecuador clearly appears to be a ploy in which Tex-Chevron has paid off the officials in Ecuador and expect them to throw out any real fines that would have routinely been leveled against them in American courts.

Throwing the Republican party out of the House, Senate and White House is a historic step in beginning to fix our political system and attempt to heal the planet.

A. Smith
Oregon

A. Smith   November 11th, 2009 4:55 am ET

Consider when George W. Bush Sr. was President, and the determination of a gasoline extender was made on his watch. Ethanol (Grain alcohol) made from midwest farmers grains, or Methanol (poisoness Wood Alcohol) made from cracking Oil and Coal products?

George W. Bush Sr. knew full well that Methanol (Wood Alcohol) was a poison and a carcinogen that causes serious illness's including blindness if consumed.

George W. Bush Sr. directed that Methanol (known at the pump as MTH) would be the 10% additive.

At that time, mom and pop gas stations were the norm. With the dangerous carcinogen Methanol additive however, all gasoline tanks needed to be replaced and special pumps and containment ponds added in attempts to stop leaking tanks from placing Methanol into the ground water which poisons it.

Mom and Pop stations closed due to the added expenses, ground water supply's in multiple locations became poisoned with Methanol. And Big Oil bought up those same Gas Station locations for a song by the thousands.

It wasn't until years later and long after the extensive environmental damage had migrated with the poisoned groundwater did America switch to Ethanol (ETH) as the 10% additive for domestic gasoline.

Even after years of scientific data showing that Methanol (wood alcohol) was poisoning many areas water supply's and migrating ground water, the Republican lawmakers kicked and moaned loudly when MTH (wood alcohol) was removed as the 10% gasoline extender and ETH (grain alcohol, Ethanol) was instituted.

George W. Bush Sr. had been a oil man for many years before being a director of the CIA and politician. Despite all of the economic losses the switch to MTH caused to 'mom and pop', and the number of lives lost thru diseases brought upon those that drank MTH contaminated water, Big Oil made hundreds of Billions of tax-payer dollars.

A. Smith
Oregon

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